The Multifamily Housing Market in Chicago, the Importance of Market Research and the “Next West Loop” with Jon Morgan of Interra Realty

On this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by a fellow champion of Chicago, Jon Morgan. Jon is co-founder and managing principal of Chicago-based Interra Realty, and he and Phil begin their conversation by discussing Interra’s formation to its emergence as a middle-market commercial real estate brokerage focusing primarily on multifamily asset sales.

During the episode, Phil and Jon reminisce on the 2008 recession and how it differs from today’s market conditions, especially concerning the level of control banks previously had on real estate. Now that the real estate market is so volatile, Jon ensures that research is an integral part of Interra’s philosophy. Jon says he and his colleagues track the market weekly and stay in constant communication with clients to effectively take advantage of fluctuating market conditions.

Jon also explains how the multifamily market has managed to stay lucrative despite seesawing trends spurred by the pandemic. He points out that retailers are now starting to participate in the multifamily space because it keeps pace with inflation, making it a prime investment opportunity.

As fellow Chicagoans, Phil and Jon do not forget to pay homage to the city by highlighting Chicago’s phenomenal restaurants, major sports teams and growing tech scene. As the two discuss prominent Chicago neighborhoods such as the West Loop, Phil capitalizes on Jon’s knowledge of economics to get him to reveal what he believes the “next West Loop”, or at least an up-and-coming area of Chicago.

Jon Morgan began his career in real estate in 2004. Since then, he has been involved in more than $1 billion in transactions, including apartment buildings, retail properties and ground-up developments.

Jon co-founded Interra Realty with David Goss in 2010 to create a different kind of brokerage firm, one built on trusting relationships with buyers and sellers and hyperlocal, block-by-block expertise. This, coupled with Interra’s commitment to client service, has helped the company to establish many long-lasting relationships, fuel its meteoric growth and become a destination for talent and the training of up-and-coming brokers. As Chicago’s top middle-market brokerage, Interra now handles almost one in five sales of apartment buildings up to 100 units, according to CoStar.

Learn more about Interra here: https://interrarealty.com/

Multifamily Real Estate, Equity Investment and the “Karma Economy” with Nick Earls and Eric DiNicola of Winterspring Capital

In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover and co-host Jay Augustyn are joined by Nick Earls and Eric DiNicola, co-founders of Winterspring Capital. Phil and Jay sit down with Nick and Eric to discuss the pair’s 20-year friendship and how they successfully developed a business and brand from their first real estate project, which included the renovation and sale of three condominium units in Boston.

The Winterspring story is interesting in seeing how two friends can create a real estate development company, without deep pocket backers, by taking one step at a time, by building skills, by stepping out of their comfort zone and focusing on marketing, and by measuring each decision and learning lessons as they build for the future.  Specifically, the group examines the pros and cons of funding projects with equity investments in lieu of debt; the company’s marketing strategy and plans for future growth including writing books and articles for public consumption; the concept of the “karma economy”; and Winterspring’s foray into Boston’s affordable housing market.

As co-founder and managing principal of Winterspring Capital, Nick Earls has over a decade of experience in all phases of commercial real estate, including asset management, sales, new construction development and property management.

While building his own portfolio, he has also guided many investors down the path of multifamily investment, management or development. He is an expert on multifamily condominium development, underwriting, and asset management in the multifamily space and is also the author of the top-rated book, “Making Millions through Multi-Family Development.”

Eric DiNicola is also a co-founder and managing principal of Winterspring Capital. His strong financial background spans over a decade. Eric began working in public equity in 2010 and moved into the private equity markets where he worked on valuations and capital raising.

Joining forces with Nick in 2015, Eric leveraged his investment experience and expertise to accelerate the growth of Winterspring's real estate business. Heading up the company’s acquisitions team, Eric leans on his extensive broker network to keep Winterspring's deal pipeline full.

For more information, visit: https://winterspringcapital.com/  

Debt Financing and Life Companies with Mark Perkowski of Draper and Kramer, Incorporated

In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover and his co-host Jay Augustyn are joined by Mark Perkowski, a Vice President in Draper and Kramer, Incorporated’s Commercial Finance Group.

On the podcast, Phil and Mark discuss the process of debt placement and financing for all types of commercial real estate deals. In particular, they examine a particular type of financing from life insurance companies, and what those types of lenders look for in terms of deals.  From there, they discuss the difference between lending sources, from life companies, to traditional banking, to CMBS loans, and current market trends stemming from COVID-19 fallout. Mark highlights the importance of relationships– both his own personal relationships and those cultivated throughout Draper and Kramer, Incorporated’s over 125-year history – in finding the best deals for his borrower and lender clients.

During his time at Draper and Kramer, Incorporated, Mark has closed $600 million in loans across all major property types, including hotels and data centers. He specializes in placing loans with life companies and structuring complicated transactions.

Hailing from western New York, Mark began his commercial real estate career in 2004 helping retailers use market data and analytical tools to identify the most profitable locations. He then served as a consultant to banks, advising them on the quality of their commercial real estate loans, prior to transitioning to commercial mortgage banking in 2011 when he relocated to Chicago. He holds a B.S. in business administration and finance from St. John Fisher College in Rochester, New York.  

Since 1893, Draper and Kramer, Incorporated, has sourced commercial real estate debt and equity used to acquire, develop, renovate, refinance and recapitalize assets across property sectors and markets throughout the U.S. Today, through its Commercial Finance Group, the company continues that tradition with innovative financing solutions at all levels of the capital stack that are offered to third-party clients and used by Draper and Kramer for its own investments.

For more information, please visit https://draperandkramer.com/

Industrial Real Estate Market Analysis with Joe Moriarty of Dayton Street Partners

Today on Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover and his co-host Jay Augustyn are joined by Joe Moriarty of Dayton Street Partners LLC (Dayton Street), a commercial real estate investment and development firm focused on the acquisition and development of high barrier to entry infill industrial and logistics properties.

On the podcast, Joe shares Dayton Street’s current investment thesis and passion for challenging development projects. Joe discusses Dayton Street’s pursuit of industrial development projects outside of the Chicagoland area and the process by which the Dayton Street team cultivates relationships with key constituencies in the new markets. Joe then shares his thoughts on why he remains bullish on industrial and logistics facility development as we approach living in a post-pandemic world.

Joe Moriarty is a Director of Acquisitions at Dayton Street, where he is responsible for sourcing industrial real estate acquisitions and land for development opportunities. He co-heads the firm’s acquisition efforts throughout the Midwest, while also focusing on Atlanta and the greater Southeast. Prior to joining Dayton Street, Joe worked in the Capital Markets Group at JLL where he specialized in office transactions.  Joe began his career in 2013 as an analyst for GE Capital Real Estate and graduated with a degree in finance from the University of Kansas.

For more information, please visit https://www.daytonstreetllc.com/.

Episode 21 - Bob Cavoto Repost

Happy Thanksgiving!  Phil is out this week to spend time with family, so we are re-broadcasting one of our most popular interviews: A sit down with Bob Cavoto, the founder of 20/20 Foresight Executive Search. Bob comes on to answer all those questions you always wanted to ask an executive recruiter. Bob shoots it straight. Bob explains executive marketing and recruiting, gives career and life advice, and provides a roadmap for how to improve your career and become a C-level executive for real estate companies. It is a fascinating discussion about the job market in commercial real estate and how to market yourself for a C-level executive position. We plan to have Bob come back on in early 2018 for a market update.

Learn more about 20/20 Foresight here:  http://www.2020-4.com/

DISCLAIMER – No information contained in this Podcast or on this Website shall constitute financial, investment, legal and/or other professional advice and that no professional relationship of any kind is created between you and podcast host, the guests, SATC Solution Center L3C, or Schenk Annes Tepper Campbell Ltd. You are urged to speak with your financial, investment, or legal advisors before making any investment or legal decisions.

Episode 19 - Andy Koglin

Phil sits down with our first architect on the podcast, Andy Koglin—the President of OKW Architects.  Andy tells Phil about current trends in real estate, including redeveloping and adapting bricks and mortar for different uses by creating value and density, and seeing an increase in urban infill properties. Examples of these projects are the new Amazon, Bareburger, and Soul Cycle in the Clybourn Corridor. While Phil has Andy’s ear, he asks Andy to tell us about the NewCity Development, and how he approaches integrated community development projects such as the Southport Corridor. 

OKW is involved in many aspects of commercial real estate, from architecture, to interior design, to urban planning, and to landscape architecture. You will see OKW on many interesting projects such as New City in the bustling North/Clybourn corridor, to central station in Evanston, IL, to the Soul Cycle on Southport. The good people at OKW take an idea from start to reality. 

We should note that at the end of the episode Andy tells Phil about the CANstruction fundraising project to help the Greater Chicago Food Depository.  While we did not get a chance to release the podcast while this project was on display, we urge you to keep this project in mind for next year as it helps a great cause. Schenk Annes Tepper Campbell Ltd. was a proud sponsor of the OKW team’s project this year.

Learn more about OKW here.  http://www.okwarchitects.com/

DISCLAIMER – No information contained in this Podcast or on this Website shall constitute financial, investment, legal and/or other professional advice and that no professional relationship of any kind is created between you and podcast host, the guests, SATC Solution Center L3C, or Schenk Annes Tepper Campbell Ltd. You are urged to speak with your financial, investment, or legal advisors before making any investment or legal decisions.

Episode 13 - Sam Rosen

In order to learn more about the coworking phenomenon, Phil has Sam Rosen, co-founder of Deskpass, on the podcast.  Sam, a design and technology professional by trade, is a long time pioneer in the coworking space industry (former founder of the “Coop” in River North), and Deskpass allows users to dip their toes in the coworking atmosphere.   Sam discusses trends with the millennial workforce, the shift to the freelance workforce, and how companies are using creative strategies to attract top tier talent in urban areas.

Learn more about Deskpass:  www.deskpass.com.   At the 21:00-23:00 minute mark, Sam offers our listeners 50% of their initial month.  Call and mention that you heard about the deal on our podcast.

DISCLAIMER – No information contained in this Podcast or on this Website shall constitute financial, investment, legal and/or other professional advice and that no professional relationship of any kind is created between you and podcast host, the guests, SATC Solution Center L3C, or Schenk Annes Tepper Campbell Ltd. You are urged to speak with your financial, investment, or legal advisors before making any investment or legal decisions.

Episode 8 - Bob Cavoto

Jobs!  Careers!   Bob Cavoto, the founder of 20/20 Foresight Executive Search, comes on to answer all those questions you always wanted to ask an executive recruiter.   Bob shoots it straight.  Bob explains executive marketing and recruiting, gives career and life advice, and provides a roadmap for how to improve your career and become a C-level executive for real estate companies.  It is a fascinating discussion about the job market in commercial real estate and how to market yourself for a C-level executive position.  

Learn more about 20/20 Foresight Executive Search here. 

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DISCLAIMER – No information contained in this Podcast or on this Website shall constitute financial, investment, legal and/or other professional advice and that no professional relationship of any kind is created between you and podcast host, the guests, SATC Solution Center L3C, or Schenk Annes Tepper Campbell Ltd. You are urged to speak with your financial, investment, or legal advisors before making any investment or legal decisions.

Episode 7 - David Haigh

In episode 7, Phil has industrial real estate broker, David Haigh, of NAI Hiffman, come on to discuss the different approach needed for massive square footage transactions in industrial real estate.   Dave explains a good approach to networking and getting into the real estate business, explains the history and macroeconomic factors that lead Chicago to being of paramount importance in industrial real estate, and new trends in the industrial real estate market.

Learn more about NAI Hiffman here.

DISCLAIMER – No information contained in this Podcast or on this Website shall constitute financial, investment, legal and/or other professional advice and that no professional relationship of any kind is created between you and podcast host, the guests, SATC Solution Center L3C, or Schenk Annes Tepper Campbell Ltd. You are urged to speak with your financial, investment, or legal advisors before making any investment or legal decisions.

Episode 6 - Steven Spinell

Phil's featured guest is Steven Spinell of JLL. Steven is a former professional hockey player turned commercial real estate professional. Steven discusses his work on JLL's build to suit team, his transition to commercial real estate, and his passion project to help competitive athletes transition from the sports arena to the corporate arena.  But first, Phil is joined by fellow SATC principal John Campbell to discuss how and why cyber security is a necessity for real estate professionals, and the upcoming cyber security symposium on March 8, 2017, brought to you by SATC Solution Center, L3C.   

John Campbell on cybersecurity:  2-18 Minute Mark

Steven Spinell:  Starts at 18 Minute Mark (Hockey Talk starts at 26 minute mark)

DISCLAIMER – No information contained in this Podcast or on this Website shall constitute financial, investment, legal and/or other professional advice and that no professional relationship of any kind is created between you and podcast host, the guests, SATC Solution Center L3C, or Schenk Annes Tepper Campbell Ltd. You are urged to speak with your financial, investment, or legal advisors before making any investment or legal decisions.